Ask the Milies: Fraternization?

October 07, 2010

Ask the Milies: Fraternization?

by Kerry-Ann Ellington, Ask the Milies

Dear Milies,

When it comes to fraternization, how am I included? I've heard there is no rank among spouses, but is it fair for me to befriend someone who my husband can't?

~Elizabeth

Elizabeth,

Fraternization is a tricky one. I'm not the type of person who likes to be told who I can or cannot befriend or someone who pays attention to ranks. I consider myself a pretty open and friendly person so if I meet someone and think they're nice enough to be friends with, I'd hate to have to pay attention to the rank of their husband. However, it can cause conflict for your husband at work.

Here's how my husband explained it to me from experiences he's seen with other co-workers: Say your husband is an E8. He's expected to deal with straightening out E5s and below, if you befriend a wife whose husband is an E3 or E2, it can cause conflict at work because the husband who's an E2 or E3 may not want to respect or look up to the E8 husband anymore. It'll take that much longer for work to get done the way it should be and on top of that, the ranking system is constantly in play in the military so if there's an event and you're hanging out with the wife of the E2 or E3 your husband will be put in an awkward position with his superiors if they see you doing that.

Is it fair? I don't think so. Sadly that is the way it is and this is what I've been exposed to for the past 10 years. It also depends on your husband's preference. I'd suggest you ask your husband what his preference would be about it and see if you guys can reach a compromise.

As wives we already compromise so much of ourselves to love and support our military men, so I don't think it'll be a problem trying to find a compromise in this situation.

~Kerry-Ann



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Posted by Cindy at 04:41AM on June 22 2011

There is a reason this Website and others about military spouses often feature pictures of women dressed like it’s the 1950s. It’s because if you’re a military spouse you are expected to live like it is still the 1950s. You aren’t supposed to have a career and your identity is supposed to be based on the rank of your husband, which means that although few people will come out and say it, you are expected to only befriend women who have husbands close in rank to your own husband. This has little to do with fraternization per se, but a lot to do with the military’s complete reliance on rank for everything. In other words, it has less to do with the E-3 not respecting the E-8, and more to do with the E-8 not respecting his wife who hangs out with the wife of a lowly E-3. And since you can’t have a career, and are economically dependent on him, you better do as you’re told.